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GUS Musician's Digest       Thu, 3 Mar 94 18:13 PST      Volume 5: Issue  27  

Today's Topics:
                  Concurrent MIDI synth and MIDI out
                      DIGEST ADMIN: GETTING HELP
                GUS Musician's Digest V5 #26 (3 msgs)
                        Moving mailing time...
                       Need 'brush snare' patch
                        Need help with patches
                              Patches...
                      voice samples in propats4

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Date: 3 Mar 94 10:59:00 MET
From: "VISX80::GRECNER" <GRECNER%VISX80.decnet@musx53.zfe.siemens.de>
Subject: Concurrent MIDI synth and MIDI out

How do I setup Cakewalk/Windows to use GUS synth for first 16 tracks
and GUS MIDI port for another 16 ? I suppose that should be done with
MIDI Mapper or so. Any help appreciated...

				Martin Grecner

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Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 15:17:26 -0700 (MST)
From: Dave DeBry <ddebry@dsd.es.com>
Subject: DIGEST ADMIN: GETTING HELP

Shannon Bradford spilled a Coke into a keyboard, producing this:
> I sent a post to this address several days ago and was told something
> to the effect that there are so many GUSDD subscribers that you
> couldn't help them all, and that I could ftp the ones that are
> missing.  While ftp'ing a few stray issues isn't a problem, ftp'ing
> them all is a BIG problem. What is the use of a mailing list
> otherwise?

	I'm sorry, I think I stated things wrong.

	If you just miss one or two digests, it may be because of
several reasons:

	1] No digests are sent out if there is no input to generate
		one.  (This happens often on the SDK list, and
		on occasionally to all the lists on weekends.)
	2] Systems between the mailer and you may be temporarily down;
		obviously, there's not a lot I can do about this.
	3] There's a problem with the mailer, and nobody is getting
		digests.  This is pretty obvious from my point of
		view, so you can bet I already know and am working
		on it.
	4] More are left as an exercise to the reader.  :)

	What I meant was that if you miss a digest or two, please
don't email me about it.  Check the FTP site instead to see if the
latest issue arrived there.  If you miss more than that, then go ahead
and mail me; it's probably an isolated problem I haven't seen, and
will be more than happy to fix.  :)

-- 
Dave  ddebry@ debry@   \ 
DeBry dsd.    peruvian. | "First I was a hippie, then I was a 
      es.     cs.utah.  |  stockbroker, now I am a hippie again."
      com     edu      /  

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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 11:02:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Phat H Tran <ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: GUS Musician's Digest V5 #26

On Wed, 2 Mar -1, GUS Musician's Server wrote:

> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 94 08:46:22 -0800
> From: brian block <bblock@newservr.engr.uidaho.edu>
> Subject: PatchMaker gripe
> 
> I've got a gripe about an otherwise very useful utility: Gravis' PatchMaker
> lite.  Why cannot you load a waveform larger than 64 k?? This makes it
> of limited use for creating loops, etc.  Is this an inherent limitation of
> the GUS, or could this be remedied in future versions of PatchMaker?

Umm... You _can_ load samples larger than 64kB into PML versions 1.11 or 
later.

Phat.

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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 09:26:12 -0800
From: chrisw@popserver.stanford.edu (Chris Wilkins)
Subject: Re: GUS Musician's Digest V5 #26

>>From: dna@netcom.com (David Altekruse)
>>Subject: Custom Patches
>>
>>The primary reason I am posting this, though, is to see if anyone has
>>suggestions concerning the handling of patch revisions and of multiple
>>versions of the same instrument.  This is of particular interest to me
>>since I am about to submit a couple harpsichord patches as well as yet
>>another revision of the bosen_l.pat and a smaller piano patch. 

Well, my approach is that if if it's still in submit I just wipe out the old 
one and pop in the new one. If it's not then you're in a nasty situation. I 
actually think an a, b suffix is not to bad. But should the site managers 
assume that b supercedes a and wipe out a on the sites? What happens then if 
someone else submits a b version of your patch?

Chris. 

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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 09:20:31 -0800
From: chrisw@popserver.stanford.edu (Chris Wilkins)
Subject: Re: GUS Musician's Digest V5 #26

>I think ideally this would be included in one of the (many?) text
>blocks in the patch header.  I found myself in the situation of 
>downloading several revisions of the piano.pat and piano2.pat patches
>by Chris Wilkins and not knowing which was the latest.  This could
>have been solved easily by having the revision number inside the
>patch itself.  Chris, is there any easy way to tell if I have the
>latest?  The FTP sites have 1 piano.pat and 3 revisions of piano2.pat.

Well, actually this is more Phat's breach of etiquette than mine. I think 
there's only one version of Piano2 by me and another 2 by Phat if you're 
talking about Piano2a and 2b. I uploaded a couple of versions of the same 
one over a period of a few days but then stopped. As far as I'm concerned, 
piano2 in it's final version supercedes piano2a and 2b. The problem is that 
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to inflict that opinion on the world. (BTW, 
Piano1 is fundamentally different. That's why it's called 2 and not 1!).

The question is what should be done if you'd like to replace an existing 
patch on the archive because there was something wrong with it and you feel 
that you improved it. It certainly doesn't sound right to go deleting other 
peoples files. And if the file has made it out of submit then basically 
you're stuck anyway.

One solution would be to negotiate with the original patch maker, but what 
happens with anonymous patches?

>From: brian block <bblock@newservr.engr.uidaho.edu>
>
>I've got a gripe about an otherwise very useful utility: Gravis' PatchMaker
>lite.  Why cannot you load a waveform larger than 64 k?? This makes it
>of limited use for creating loops, etc.  Is this an inherent limitation of
>the GUS, or could this be remedied in future versions of PatchMaker?

It already has been. Up to 256k waveforms are possible.

Chris.

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Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 01:51:22 -0700 (MST)
From: Dave DeBry <ddebry@dsd.es.com>
Subject: Moving mailing time...

	I'm moving the initial mailing time for the GUS Digests.  Up
until now, it has been starting at 12:07am PST, and running for about
4 hours after that -- the mail server sleeps between each send so that
it doesn't flood any mail queues.

	I'm moving to start at 12:07 *pm*, PST.  This is because the
Digests are now non-local, so I can't fix the machine if it goes down.
Doing the sends during the day increases the chances that someone
local to the machine running the digests will have the system up when
the mailing occurs.

	The hit on the net should be minimal; I spread the mailings
out over time, and they are running at Bulk precedence.  If you have
any problems with this new time, please email me.

	Thanks!

-- 
Dave  ddebry@ debry@   \ 
DeBry dsd.    peruvian. | "A jar of eyes can be a tasty treat."
      es.     cs.utah.  |
      com     edu      /  

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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 23:31:27 +0200
From: Petri Lammi <plammi@utu.fi>
Subject: Re: Need 'brush snare' patch

 > 
> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 15:13:17 EST
> From: Progress Through Tradition  28-Feb-1994 1515 <donham@browny.enet.dec.com>
> Subject: Need 'brush snare' patch
> 
> Anyone have a pointer to a good brush snare patch?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Perry Donham

Try ftp-ls7.informatik.uni-dortmund.de  /pub/tx16w/samples/roland-r8/
The archive is r8s.zip. There are a couple of 'brush snares', as well as 
some other very nice snares. They are all 12-bit samples, so you need to do 
some conversion. If this causes you trouble, you can keep John Capps' 
patchmaking reference (can hopefully be found on epas) at hand. If I 
remember it correctly, the archive name was patching.zip.

Good luck,

Petri

 .............................................................................
Petri Lammi                What we can't feel can drive us grazy 
plammi@polaris.cc.utu.fi                              - Arthur Janov
 .............................................................................

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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 9:36:54 -0800 (PST)
From: KOZARD@uvphys.phys.uvic.ca
Subject: Need help with patches

Does anyone have the files names and FTP addresses for some good patches
for the following:

Electric Guitar: Metal type distortion/overdrive

Drum kits: H. Rock/Metal

What about old analog synth's ? I would get the CD if I had a 16 bit
sampler.

And is there a FTP address for the update of Band In a Box Pro
(windows) that supports patch caching ?

Thanks.

Email or post to digest.

KOZARD@UVPHYS.PHYS.UVIC.CA

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Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 16:13:03 +0800 (PST)
From: Francis Li <fli@nermal.santarosa.edu>
Subject: Patches...

I have seen all of these new custom patches for the GUS, (808drums,
909drums, etc).  But I would like to know which of these patches can be
used to fully replace the original patches, so that they will fit in
memory and work with MEGAEM, ULTRAMID, etc.  I don't really want to go
around completely reediting my ULTRASND.INI, at least not until there's an
editor, and patch banking is more fully implemented.

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Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 12:25 GMT+0100
From: RTHI%BTMA74@se.alcbel.be
Subject: voice samples in propats4

Hi all,

Who has more voice samples like the one in propats4.zip ?
I need some good voices to put in a techno song.

Roland

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